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REP Massie speaks concealed-carry rights for home members
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A Republican representative warns that the 1.3 trillion-dollars-bill approved by Congress last week, veterans means more aging could be deprived of the possession of weapons, because a policy aimed at those who are no longer with your finances.
Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., told the House Committee on Rules could result in the bill “that more veterans will lose the right to keep and bear arms”, because it is an independent determination to strengthen the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
“At the VA, they are veterans, to lose, keep your right and bear arms every day… if you do so much as to say, the person interviewing you, that ‘someone else manages my finances are,” said Massie.
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Under the current policy, the Department of Veterans Affairs, asks veterans to apply for benefits, whether you are with your own finances. If you don’t do your own invoices, the government regarded as “incompetent”, their advantages, and their name then goes to the FBI “NICS” background check system.
If that happens, the veteran is locked up for the purchase or the possession of any weapons.
In many cases, that affected say they are mentally healthy and are surprised to find yourself blocked from buying a weapon.
“It was a total Shocker,” Mark Jeffery, an Ohio-based veterans affected by this policy, told Fox News. “The man who was made of this provision to me is not a psychologist.”
He appealed and waited more than two years for a final answer, which was decided in his favor only this week.
Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., told the House Committee on Rules last week, could lead to the statement “that more veterans will lose the right to keep and bear arms”, because it is an independent determination to strengthen the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
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Massie says the new law will make the situation “worse” because there is “more pressure on the VA to more zeal put veterans this report name in the database.”
If this happens to a veteran, you have to appeal a 30-day window. If you appeal, the process often takes years and thousands of dollars in a lawyer.
“VA says a veteran of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System when he or she is indisputable, as to be incompetent by the Veterans Benefits Administration, which said for the purposes of the administration of his or her monetary benefits”, a Veterans Affairs spokesman.
The VA spokesman continued: “This procedure is required by law and provides protection for veterans, including a Chance for the veterans to appeal.”
The VA system reflects established a process by the Obama administration, the application of the same policy of Social security recipients. Congress repealed that Obama is the rule, but a similar measure to the end, died the same practice for veterans in the Senate.
The VA sent more than 35,000 veterans names will be blocked to the FBI, by the purchase or possession of weapons in the year 2017 alone, according to a VA document. The document was obtained by a lawyer named Seth Watkins, a Freedom of Information request, and he gave it to Fox News.
“The system is simply absurd”
– Seth Watkins, a lawyer, several veterans
“The system is simply absurd,” Watkins, of the go as a representative for several veterans through appeals, said Fox News.
More than 200,000 veterans have lost their gun show right since 2010, the documents.
“I’m not on the right or the left side. There is only a problem in the mechanics of how this is done,” a Veterans Administration employee, told Fox News.
“The problem is, there is no distinction between the individual who is willing to rise up in the bell tower and start shooting, as opposed to the Person who has a touch of dementia and has lost said cheque-book,” the employees
The VA employee requested that he and his job will remain the title anonymous, out of fear of retaliation by the VA.
Henry Wrobel, 63, a veteran affected by this policy, won his appeal, after two years of being on the gun blacklist.
“Yesterday, I allow the gun back,” Wrobel from Canton, Texas, told Fox News on Wednesday.
Wrobel said his ordeal began when she asked for a lower floor, VA hospital person him about his finances. He told the employees that his wife suggested, it would be easy to set-up auto-debit payments.
“I set up an auto-debit to pay my electricity bill, phone bill, insurance, a TV,'” Wrobel said. “And he is enabled ‘no, his wife does.'”
He is proud to be good with finances. Wrobel has bought, improved and sold land, and has a credit score of over 700.
He said he was treated “as a convicted criminal,” with his “gun rights”.
Finally, the VA is repealed its decision and asked the FBI to remove name from banned list – Wrobel make him a rare case in which a veteran can beat the system.
“Fundamental rights are so fragile. You have to fight for it… it is not like the people that you have said the right weapons,” Wrobel.
Wrobel won his challenge, but other veterans say, you give up hope.
“About a year and a half ago, I tried to buy a shot gun hunting deer,” Pennsylvania-based veteran Cataldo Amico, 69, said on Fox News.
But to check his background, came back, denied.
He says he told the seller: “I have no criminal record, I have never prison spent time in an insane – where do you get this?”
Several calls to the authorities later, Amico said he was “undisputed mentally defective.”
“I think-what the hell are you talking about?”, he remembered. “No one informed me of this. I just want to get back in the woods, with deer hunting, you know?”
Amico said, the only thing he can think of, is that he was treated for depression years – but he says that he felt better for a long time and is on no medication.
He says he got nowhere in the conversation with the VA, when she was in the window for a normal appeal is over. He paid several hundred dollars for a lawyer to put in a formal complaint, but the VA answer came: go ahead, sue us.
He asked his lawyer what it would cost to sue. “He said he could the cost of a $7,500, you to the court. I said, ‘what? I can’t do that. This is a lot of money for a middle-class guy.'”
“Not only that, the wheels of justice turn slow… I am in very good health for a man of 69, but that can take years-if I deleted,”
“To be honest with you, I’m kind of giving up hope,” Cataldo said. “It would be an act of God to fix this Problem.”
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