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A democratic Congressman in the house impeachment investigation involved said on Tuesday that Gordon Sondland, the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, the risk of perjury charges as a result of his closed-door deposition last week, in front of the house, three committees of investigation indictment.
Rep. Peter Welch, D-Vermont, who serves on the house intelligence committee, told MSNBC’s “The last word” on Tuesday that new evidence shows that Sondland worked closely with President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani on foreign policy, as he has previously during his 10-hour testimony in front of Congress last week.
GORDON SONDLAND, AMBASSADOR OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED IN THE UKRAINE CONTROVERSY, TO TESTIFY TRUMP TOLD HIM “NO QUID PRO QUO”
MSNBC host Lawrence O’donnell asked Welch: “Is Gordon Sondland at risk of perjury charges for his testimony to your Committee?”
“I think, he replied,” What. “When he presented, he was a certain rich man who bought an ambassadorship and he did, it was a good day for him. He got a job he wanted, but he was quite naive, he knew, the real encounter was in the room next door.”
“But the proof is now, he was a very active instrument to help to try to Giuliani in the effort, these rogue foreign policy,” Welch.
Sondland testified last week that Trump told him it was not a quid pro quo, when Trump came to pass that the controversial July telephone conversation, the Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskiy. He also said he was concerned that the President delegated Giuliani foreign-policy responsibility, that he thought belonged to the State Department but Trump instructions followed, anyway.
“We were also disappointed by the President’s direction, we include, Mr. Giuliani,” Sondland said in the comments. “Our view was that the men and women of the State Department, not the President’s personal attorney, should be responsible for all aspects of the US foreign policy towards Ukraine.”
The Congress on Tuesday heard from William Taylor, who exchanged text messages with Sondland this summer and autumn. Taylor testified that he was told via text messages that Trump wanted to be connected to military assistance to Ukraine to examine the country, the willingness, the 2016 US presidential election, and Joe, the family, Biden shops in the country, reported The Washington Post. He was the last official expected to give a statement from behind closed doors.
Last week, Democrats Sondland asked, whose name emerged in a whistleblower complaint in August helped spur the prosecution request, via text messages, which were provided to the committees earlier this month, the former Ukrainian envoy Kurt Volker. The news Sondland, Volker, and Taylor show to discuss an agreement in which the Zelenskiy to be offered, a White house visit, to commit in exchange for a public statement from the Ukraine, to investigations in the 2016 US presidential election, and in Burisma, the gas company Biden, in conjunction with Hunter.
A text exchange that has attracted attention involves Taylor told Sondland, he thought it was “crazy” is to withhold the military aid of Ukraine “for the help with a political campaign.” Sondland said that Trump had been clear about his intentions, and that there is no quid pro quo.
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Sondland said the legislator, that Trump said to him on the phone, he sent the text, that there is no quid pro quo and that he’s parroting just this dam is important to Taylor.
“I asked the President:” What do you want from the Ukraine?'” Sondland said. “The President replied:” Nothing. There is no quid pro quo.’ The President again, no quid pro quo, reiterated: “‘ a number of times. This was a very short phone call. And I remember the President was in a bad mood.”
The Associated Press contributed to this report.